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RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:44 pm
by 75Fan
The 2013-2014 Racers made for a memorable season when they won the CIT Championship.

I wondered who would win on a neutral court if they played this year's team.

Here's the adjusted player ratings and prediction for this hypothetical game.....
(This year's Racers in yellow, 2013-14 Racers in Orange)


PLAYER		RATING
JA MORANT	152.7546

CAMERON PAYNE	148.7280

JARVIS WILLIAMS	133.6247


JEFFREY MOSS	110.3698

T. J. SAPP	101.9117

SHAQ BUCHANAN	 95.5036
DEXTER FIELDS	 93.4892
TEVIN BROWN	 93.4857



JONATHAN FAIRELL 69.0817
DARNELL COWART	 62.3946

K. J. WILLIAMS	 50.9124


ANTHONY SMITH	 39.1008
TYLER RAMBO	 37.6506
MIKE DAVIS	 31.2570

BRION SANCHIOUS	 29.2155
JAIVEON EAVES	 28.7598
DEVIN GILMORE	 28.5917
BRION WHITLEY	 23.9689

C. J. FORD	 18.3795
TERRON GILMORE	 11.5744

JALEN JOHNSON	  9.8524
ZAY HENDERSON	  7.7602
JEFF MARTIN, JR.  6.9101
DAQUAN SMITH	  6.3319
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Here's my prediction for this game.....



STAT	MURRAY	13-14 Racers
FGM	25	24
FGA	52	64
FG%	48.08	37.5

3PM	6	7
3PA	17	23
3P%	35.29	30.43

FTM	12	17
FTA	18	25
FT%	66.67	68.00

OR	10	11
DR	21	23
REB	31	34

FLS	21	14

AST	13	14
TOS	14	10

BLK	3	5
STL	6	7

PTS	68	72

Too bad we'll never get to "see" this game played but it sure looks interesting on paper!

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:34 pm
by dbstepside
I don’t think our bigs this year could contain Jarvis and Jonathon. I do think that watching Sapp guard Ja and Shaq on Cam would be very interesting though.

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:08 pm
by 75Fan
Here's the player ratings for this hypothetical game.....

JA MORANT		153.9179

CAMERON PAYNE		142.2484

JARVIS WILLIAMS		132.3937


JEFFREY MOSS		115.9426



SHAQ BUCHANAN		 88.8698
TEVIN BROWN		 82.1441

DEXTER FIELDS		 76.9113
T. J. SAPP		 74.8743

DARNELL COWART		 60.6289

JONATHAN FAIRELL	 57.2018
DEVIN GILMORE		 51.9691

K. J. WILLIAMS		 43.5626



TYLER RAMBO		 15.0733

JAIVEON EAVES		  0.7696
MIKE DAVIS		  0.3715




BRION SANCHIOUS		 -1.9089


BRION WHITLEY		 -3.4689

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:15 pm
by 75Fan
Here's the player's Net Game Rating for this hypothetical game.....


JA MORANT		 8.1688


CAMERON PAYNE		 6.0172


JARVIS WILLIAMS		 4.3110

T. J. SAPP		 3.5489

JEFFREY MOSS		 2.4084



DEVIN GILMORE		-0.3582
SHAQ BUCHANAN		-0.4472
DARNELL COWART		-0.5003

JAIVEON EAVES		-1.2313
K. J. WILLIAMS		-1.7158
DEXTER FIELDS		-1.9876

MIKE DAVIS		-2.2300
BRION WHITLEY		-2.4308
TEVIN BROWN		-2.6263
BRION SANCHIOUS		-2.6289

JONATHAN FAIRELL	-3.3573

TYLER RAMBO		-4.9406

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:34 pm
by racerlover
This thread makes me wonder. What would your all time Racer starting five be? Only five players. Now that would be a difficult roster to come up with.

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:37 pm
by runner67
This is very cool 75! Nice job. :clap:

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:47 pm
by dbstepside
Plus a Gilmore vs Gilmore would be great to watch. I can still see the look that Pep would get whenever he got the ball.

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:11 pm
by 75Fan
For what my eyes have seen, I would propose the following.....

1. Jeff Martin
2. Popeye Jones
3. Ja Morant
4. Marcus Brown
5. Ricky Hood

I wasn't around for the early teams, but Dick Cunningham, Joe Fulks, and Stew Johnson certainly are deserving of consideration.

Also deserving of consideration in modern times is Cuthbert Victor, Aubrey Reese, Vincent Rainey, Isaac Spencer, Isaiah Canaan, Jarvis Williams, Don Mann, and Paul King.

I'm sure I'm leaving plenty of great players out.

We've seen some great players come through Murray, Kentucky through the years!

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:26 pm
by racerlover
75Fan wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:11 pm
For what my eyes have seen, I would propose the following.....

1. Jeff Martin
2. Popeye Jones
3. Ja Morant
4. Marcus Brown
5. Ricky Hood

I wasn't around for the early teams, but Dick Cunningham, Joe Fulks, and Stew Johnson certainly are deserving of consideration.

Also deserving of consideration in modern times is Cuthbert Victor, Aubrey Reese, Vincent Rainey, Isaac Spencer, Isaiah Canaan, Jarvis Williams, Don Mann, and Paul King.

I'm sure I'm leaving plenty of great players out.

We've seen some great players come through Murray, Kentucky through the years!
Paul King was one of best shooters I've seen come through. I like your list!

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:47 pm
by 02Racer
For my starting five, I'm only selecting from those I saw play:

Ja Morant
Isaiah Canann
Marcus Brown
Issac Spencer
Popeye Jones

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:15 pm
by murraygrad05
Top 5 guards I've seen:
1. Ja Morant
2. Marcus Brown
3. Isaiah Canaan
4. De'Teri Mayes
5. Aubrey Reese

Top 5 forwards/centers:
1. Jeff Martin
2. Popeye
3. Vincent Rainey
4. James Singleton
5. Isaac Spencer

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:57 pm
by SoILRacer
Gotta have lottery pick Cam Payne in the greatest guards list.

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:25 pm
by A_1985_grad
Ja Morant or Cam Payne?

Marcus Brown or Isaiah Canaan?

Ike Spencer or James "Chicago" Singleton?

Popeye Jones or Dick Cunningham?

Les Taylor or Jeff Martin?

And you could make another all-star team with the next 10 or 20 (Jim Jennings, Stew Johnson, Howie Crittenden, Bennie Purcell, Johnny Reagan ...) Pretty good history of basketball at this school.

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:34 am
by wallaceracer
SoILRacer wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:57 pm
Gotta have lottery pick Cam Payne in the greatest guards list.
Nah, I'm good

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:28 am
by smidge34
SoILRacer wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:57 pm
Gotta have lottery pick Cam Payne in the greatest guards list.
Without a doubt.

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:20 am
by SwedeDRC
75Fan wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:11 pm
For what my eyes have seen, I would propose the following.....

1. Jeff Martin
2. Popeye Jones
3. Ja Morant
4. Marcus Brown
5. Ricky Hood

I wasn't around for the early teams, but Dick Cunningham, Joe Fulks, and Stew Johnson certainly are deserving of consideration.

Also deserving of consideration in modern times is Cuthbert Victor, Aubrey Reese, Vincent Rainey, Isaac Spencer, Isaiah Canaan, Jarvis Williams, Don Mann, and Paul King.

I'm sure I'm leaving plenty of great players out.

We've seen some great players come through Murray, Kentucky through the years!
To the early teams list I would have to add Claude Verdin, Frank Streety, Jimmy Young and Hector Blondett. These guys were in the 68-71 era. :clap:

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:41 am
by racerlover
Lists are always based on what you've seen. My earliest games are Martin and Mann. I wish I could time machine back before to see what it was like in the 60's and 70s. Here's my list...

Martin
Popeye
Ja
Canaan
Brown

It would be awesome to see how far of a run that starting five would go!!!

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:55 am
by murraygrad05
My list could have added 5 or 6 more guards.

While Cam was a very good player, I did not think he was one of the top ones I've seen. Yes he was a lottery pick, but in my view he was below a few others. Meant to be objective.

Could have added Justin Burdine, Trey Pearson, Mann, Chad Townsend, Frank Allen... There's too many to narrow down a list.

We have just had too many really good players come through.

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:39 am
by racerman100
Popeye
Jeff Martin
Ja
Paul King
Ike Spencer
But like everyone else has said pretty hard to narrow it down to 5!

A few others DT Mayes, Glen Green, Ricky Hood, Gary Hooker, Marcus Brown, Frank Allen, Aubree Reese,Cuthbert Victor, Cam Payne, the list could go on and on!

Re: RACERS vs 2013-2014 RACERS

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:23 am
by msuowns
SwedeDRC wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:20 am
75Fan wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:11 pm
For what my eyes have seen, I would propose the following.....

1. Jeff Martin
2. Popeye Jones
3. Ja Morant
4. Marcus Brown
5. Ricky Hood

I wasn't around for the early teams, but Dick Cunningham, Joe Fulks, and Stew Johnson certainly are deserving of consideration.

Also deserving of consideration in modern times is Cuthbert Victor, Aubrey Reese, Vincent Rainey, Isaac Spencer, Isaiah Canaan, Jarvis Williams, Don Mann, and Paul King.

I'm sure I'm leaving plenty of great players out.

We've seen some great players come through Murray, Kentucky through the years!
To the early teams list I would have to add Claude Verdin, Frank Streety, Jimmy Young and Hector Blondett. These guys were in the 68-71 era. :clap:
plus Les Taylor. If Gary Hooker had been here more than one year.