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murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby msuowns » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:40 pm

season.
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby Racer81 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:21 am

Oustanding opportunity for the Racers and Hatch Attack to gain national TV exposure as the FIRST Div 1 college footbal game of 2011. The Racers have the tools to keep it close, even if just for a half. Scholarship numbers will most likely do in MSU in the second half. But, this team will make a good accounting for how far we've come already under Chris Hatcher. I was at old Cardinal Stadium in 1980 forthe 13-9 win. I was back again in 1984 for the 26-23 victory. I was also there for the '87, '90 and '97 losses. I'll be there next week too...rooting for another Murray upset. Can you say App State-Michigan or Jax St-Ole Miss? My heart is jumping for a win but my head says 49-35 UL win. I like my heart's version better: a 44-42 win on Louisville native Keinen Cullen's FG with seconds left. Go Racers!
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby JoeD » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:34 am

Couldn't agree more 81. The opportunity is there. Tough to pick against the school with more schollies. But I think there is a shot. Any given Saturday ( or Thursday as it is).....
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby fmftballmgr » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:42 am

I can't wait to see this team in action. If they try to grid it out and keep our offensive off the field it may help us a bit on the defensive side. If we get into an up and down game then our defensive may run out of gas but if they take their time between plays they may not wear out towards the end. Then if we can get a couple of early scores who knows. I think it will be close eitherway
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby cowboyracer43 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:13 am

In 1963 (was it Homecoming?) a group of (to my young eyes) very old men was introduced (at halftime?) at Cutchin Stadium. These old men had put together an undefeated 1933 season, including a victory over UL by the score of 105-0. I wonder if there is any old film of that game in Racer archives?

Since I am not old enough to have seen that '33 victory, I will predict an encore of Murray 105, UL 0
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby Racerband Alum » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:12 am

As much as I would love to see a Racer victory it is probably a very long shot from coming true. I just hope for a hard played game by the Racers and give their all. Also hope we come out injury free and we learn what needs work and what doesn't for future games.

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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby BarnsleyRacer » Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:17 pm

In 2010, FCS schools went 7-81.

Wins were:

September 4 – Jacksonville State 49, Ole Miss 48 (2OT)
September 4 – North Dakota State 6, Kansas 3
September 11 – James Madison 21, #13 Virginia Tech 16
September 11 – South Dakota 41, Minnesota 38
September 11 – Gardner-Webb 38, Akron 37 (OT)
September 11 – Liberty 27, Ball State 23
October 2 – UC Davis 14, San Jose State 13

This info was ripped from wikipedia

That said, when does the score show a win for the FBS, but for practical purpose, it's a win for the FCS team?
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby BarnsleyRacer » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:20 pm

Here is a comprehensive list of post-1978 Division I split in football by conference and by team.

I didn't know that Appy State had previously been now FBS, moved down and is attempting to go back up a division.

https://sportsdelve.wordpress.com/2011/ ... -fcs-i-aa/


Here is the info for the OVC. All teams have beaten an FBS opponent except for Martin


Ohio Valley W L T W Pct Last Win vs. FBS (I-A) Opp Score
Austin Peay 2 12 0 0.143 1987: Kansas St 26-22
Eastern Illinois 4 28 0 0.125 2004: E Michigan 31-28
Eastern Kentu 6 19 0 0.240 1985: Louisville 45-21
Jacksonville St 4 14 0 0.222 2010: Mississippi 49-48
Murray St 3 19 2 0.167 1984: Louisville 26-23
SEMO 1 15 0 0.063 2002: Mid Tenn St 24-14
Tennessee St 3 2 0 0.600 1985: Louisville 24-15
Tenn Tech 2 29 0 0.065 1980: W Carolina 26-10
Tenn-Martin 0 12 0 0.000
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby fmftballmgr » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:31 pm

I see a pattern of Louisville losing to an FCS teams
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby kidd » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:15 pm

It's worth noting that when Louisville lost those games they were an independent and one of the worst DI teams in the country. There is one win on that list against a BCS school which Louisville now is. Having said that, I think the Racers have a chance. Louisville is still rebuilding after Kragthorpe came close to ruining their program and MSU has some very talented players at the skill positions. Odds are we lose by two or three touchdowns. But if the Cards aren't ready to play, who knows?
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby cowboyracer43 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:41 pm

kidd wrote:. . . I think the Racers have a chance. Louisville is still rebuilding after Kragthorpe came close to ruining their program and MSU has some very talented players at the skill positions. . .


In addition, Kidd, the Racers may well have a home field (home crowd) advantage. There are a LOT of Murray alum in Louisville. I expect them to be in vocal attendance at Papa John. My biggest concern is that UL may want to steal our coach . . .
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby kidd » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:00 pm

Louisville's average attendance was over 50,000. We won't have a crowd advantage.
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby ALPHASIG297 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:49 am

Pretty big praise from a Louisville native and fan. Taken from Pate Forde's Forde-Yard Dash column

[url]The Big East (37) will have at least two bad losses. The schedule is set up for opening success: seven of the eight teams at home, and all seven of those are favored. But Syracuse will be taken down by visiting Wake Forest, and Louisville will be stunned by Murray State. The Orange and the Cardinals are both positioned to backslide a bit after significant improvements last season and look vulnerable in their openers.

Syracuse was fortunate in 2010 (few injuries, 4-0 in games decided by seven points or less) and has six new defensive starters who combined to do very little in 2010. They will be facing Jim Grobe's most experienced Wake team in several years. Louisville is frightfully inexperienced at cornerback (not a single corner on the depth chart has made a D-I interception) and will be facing a veteran, aerial-centric Murray State team that threw for 314 yards and scored 36 points per game last season.[/url]
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby msuowns » Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:33 pm

cbr, u might be right. i think they will love our coach after this game.
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby cowboyracer43 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:50 pm

ALPHASIG297 wrote:. . . and Louisville will be stunned by Murray State. . .


Evidently, the UL crowd does not take Pat Forde's prediction seriously. A lot of comments on the Rutherford site, none of which agree with Forde. Of course there is no mention of the '33 and '34 games or of 105-0 scores. I was tempted to log on and share a bit of history. If there are any hortatorical pedants in the "nation" please check out this link and have at it. http://www.cardchronicle.com/2011/8/29/ ... rray-state
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby JoeD » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:50 am

courier-journal.com/sports/article?a=2011308300093&f=1178

Cards will have starters on special teams. Are down one starter on each side of the ball including their starting center.
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby walleye14 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:22 pm

The team hotel is in Clarksville, IN. I don't like that one bit.
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby JoeD » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:19 pm

Its less than 15 minutes away. I wouldn't worry much about that.
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby BarnsleyRacer » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:33 pm

Both Courier-Journal lead reporters feel that Murray will lose tomorrow, but both feel that we will beat the spread. That's respect, would LOVE to see a great game and the later we're ahead or close, the more youth will play against the Cards.
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Re: murray and luville- first game of the 2011

Postby JoeD » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:58 pm

Absolutley agree, Barnsley.
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